Facts About “Palestine” and “Palestinians”

A Picture of the Temple Mount Taken from the Top of the Mount of Olives

For the benefit of SnyderTalk readers, I want to make several factual statements that contradict conventional wisdom that is based on ignorance or hatred of Israel:

  1. People we call “Palestinians” today are in large measure descendants of a hodgepodge of unruly Arabs that none of the Arab nations wanted to absorb following Israel’s War of Independence in 1948, and for good reason.  For instance, Palestinians who migrated to Jordan following Israel’s War of Independence created havoc for King Hussein, so he booted them out killing thousands of them in the process during Black September.  Click here and here for details.  “Palestinians” then fled to Lebanon and helped to foment the Lebanese Civil War which lasted for more than 15 years and cost untold more lives.
  2. The Romans changed the name of Israel to Palestine following the Bar Kochba rebellion in 135 B.C.  Click here for details.  They chose that name to insult Jewish people because the Philistines were Israel’s mortal enemies.
  3. Until 1948, anyone who lived in the country we call Israel today was regarded as a “Palestinian”, including Jewish people.  Click here for details.
  4. The number of Jews forced out of Arab countries in 1948 was greater than the number of Arabs who chose to leave “Palestine” for what they thought would be a short time while the Arab nations “drove the Jews into the sea”.  Since tiny Israel defeated the combined Arab armies, they found themselves homeless.
  5. Rather than absorb the “Palestinians” who were displaced by the War of Independence, the Arab nations opted instead to set up refugee camps for them.  They did this to create squalid living conditions for “Palestinians” in hopes of garnering global support for an anti-Israel PR campaign.  Click here for details.  It’s worth noting that Israel absorbed more than 850,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries following the War of Independence.  Click here for details.
  6. Yasser Arafat (an Egyptian, click here for details) commandeered the name “Palestinian” in 1964 when he created the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).  Click here for details.  The primary purpose of the PLO was and is to destroy Israel.  Click here for details.

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29 thoughts on “Facts About “Palestine” and “Palestinians”

  1. Your facts about Palestine are wrong. Correct them, or live as a person of hate. You’re clearly a racist. Palestine will be liberated, the occupation will end, and the land those Palestinians have evolved on will return to them. You are a very bad person.

  2. I’m not wrong. I’ll change nothing. I’m not a person of hate. I’m not a racist, and there is no Palestine. Get ready because Yahweh is coming. You’ll change your tune then.

  3. I came to this website looking for TRUE, valid facts . This is not what i found here. All I found was hate. I agree with PA 100%. What you have written is saturated with prejudice and racism. What Israel is doing to Palestine is wrong, disgusting, and most importantly: ILLEGAL! I truly hope that the land belonging to the Palestinians will return to them, for they have been clearly wronged and there are sooo many people in this world who are too cowardly to face up and do something about it.

  4. You’re wrong. This is my advice. Try reading the Bible or if you don’t have time take a look at the page in the column on the right of each SnyderTalk post titled “Yahweh’s Promises Concerning the Promised Land.” If that doesn’t help you, then you have a more serious problem than simply being off the mark.

  5. “These truths we hold to be self-evident, that all men are created equal”. This insight applies equally to Arab and Isreali. So a true peace can be assured only in a situation of mutual respect – sadly lacking here. Unless Yahweh is to be reduced to a tribal deity, then we are all equal children of God.

  6. Very true, but you can’t ignore what Yahweh said about the Promised Land: http://www.snydertalk.com/?page_id=2490.

    World leaders have no right to make deals that fly in the face of Yahweh’s promises. In fact, they are setting the stage for a confrontation with Yahweh that the whole world will regret. Believers should avoid taking sides against Yahweh because it makes no sense and because it is dangerous.

  7. Those facts about the PLO line up with what I have read. “Those that hate”, do not make common sense. Thanks!

  8. thankyou for printing the truth, since you obviously offended the Arabs with the truth, Im going repost it again to keep the point out there..Have a great day, and change NOTHING

  9. Ran across a hard core Palestinian supporter while traveling by air. He was an american, but when I told him I did not support his views, it was all he could do to contain the violence. Guess he did not like Jews, oh well, we can’t all have common sense I guess.

  10. The hate is evident when you get past the veneer. Under the surface they are boiling with rage. It’s exactly what the Bible said will happen.

  11. I’ll bet the person that you talked with thinks he’s a liberal, too, because it’s politically correct for liberals to side with the “Palestinians” despite the facts.

  12. What is Zionism?
    Are all Jews Israelites? Yes.
    Are all Israelites Jews? Of course not. Scriptures declare it.

    Who is really a Jew? Are all Jews now living in Israel from the tribe of Judah? No. Was not Edom/Idumea (Esau) absorbed into Jewry in 126 B.C. under the conquering of John Hyrcanus? Josephus tells us in Antiquities of the Jews, XIII, ix, 1 and also The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, edited by Dr. Cecil Roth and Dr. Geoffrey Wigoder (1970 edition), which says under “Edom,” on page 587

    Were not Ashkenazim (CHAZARS) absorbed into Jewry? History says so.

    The entire story of their conversion is told in The Jewish Encyclopedia under the heading, Chazars. It is the first article in Volume IV in the 1903 edition. The article opens with the statement:

    “CHAZARS: A people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of Russia.”

    The article in The Jewish Encyclopedia is complete with pictures of the Jewish Kingdom of Chazaria (or Khazaria, Gazaria), extending from the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea and north to Poland. (See the photo above, taken from the 1903 edition.) The Ashkenazim comprise the majority of “white Jews” today.

    Is there a reason why the Russian “Ashkenazi” Jews are named for Ashkenaz, the nephew of Magog (Gen. 10:2, 3)?

    What if the Chazars—Russian Jews—are actually the physical descendants of Gog and Magog? What if the so-called “Russian invasion of Palestine” was fulfilled by Russian Jewish immigrants, rather than by Russian troops? What if the invasion has already been fulfilled by Zionists coming “to capture spoil and to seize plunder” (Ez. 38:12) by seizing land from the Palestinian people?

    Who is really an Israelite? Are they not the ten tribes scattered throughout the world in the diaspora from the Assyrian captivity and remain so to this day? How else could Abraham’s seed become as the “sand of the sea” ? This surely isn’t represented by the 13.4 million population of non purist Jews in the world that exist as of 2010?

    The scriptures have a LOT to say about it. How many true Jews with a circumcised heart are living in Jerusalem? Why did the Jews call this nation” Israel” instead of Judah which they were known as (after the 12 tribes were divided in the time of Jeroboam and Rehoboam after Solomon died)? Who is usurping Israel/Palestine right now?? Why, the “Jews” are under the Zionist political organization!

    Remember, the scepter was given to Judah, but the birthright was given to Joseph (Ephraim/Manasseh).

    1Ch 5:1 Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he was the firstborn; but, forasmuch as he defiled his father’s bed, his birthright was given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to be reckoned after the birthright.
    1Ch 5:2 For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph’s:) NOT JUDAH’S

    The land is TRUE Israel’s inheritance when at the APPOINTED time the LORD will bring the two sticks together. They will be one in HIM again and under the authority of Yahweh Yashua, not man. That is when Israel will be restored. Here’s the mystery, she will be a HEAVENLY Jerusalem. Paul tells us to cast out the bondwoman.

    Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, one by the handmaid, and one by the freewoman.
    Gal 4:23 Howbeit the son by the handmaid is born after the flesh; but the son by the freewoman is born through promise.
    Gal 4:24 Which things contain an allegory: for these women are two covenants; one from mount Sinai, bearing children unto bondage, which is Hagar.
    Gal 4:25 Now this HAGAR is mount Sinai in Arabia, and ANSWERETH to the JERUSALEM that now is: for she is in bondage with her children.
    Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is ABOVE is free, which is our mother.
    Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; Break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: For more are the children of the desolate than of her which hath the husband.
    Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.
    Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
    Gal 4:30 Howbeit what saith the scripture? Cast out the handmaid and her son: for the son of the handmaid shall not inherit with the son of the freewoman.
    Gal 4:31 Wherefore, brethren, we are not children of a handmaid, but of the freewoman.

    For we look for a city whose builder and maker is God, not Netanyahu. What is going on in “Israel” is antichrist and ZIONIST to the core. MOST Christians are being deceived by this ZIONIST FRONT, including yourself, Mr. Snyder. Unless you are willingly part of this movement?

    Jesus said,

    Luk 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
    Luk 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

    That time has not yet come but it will when the New Jerusalem(the BRIDE) appears as John described:

    Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

    Again, I ask, who is true ISRAEL? Who really is a Jew? Yahweh knows, He has not lost one of His sheep. We will know peace when the Prince of Peace establishes his Kingdom. Is it really becoming His bride to fight and spill blood over this political sham? WHO HAS HEARD FROM THE LORD?

  13. You are wrong. You need to read Romans chapter 11 because Paul encountered people with beliefs like yours, and Romans 11 was written to them:

    Romans 11

    1—I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
    2—God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?
    4—But what is the divine response to him? “I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.”
    5—In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God’s gracious choice.
    6—But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
    7—What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened;
    8—just as it is written,
    9—And David says,
    11—I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.
    12—Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be!
    13—But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
    14—if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them.
    15—For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
    16—If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.
    17—But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree,
    18—do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you.
    19—You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”
    20—Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;
    21—for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.
    22—Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off.
    23—And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
    24—For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
    25—For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;
    26—and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
    28—From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers;
    29—for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
    30—For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience,
    31—so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy.
    32—For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.
    33—Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!
    36—For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

  14. I used to think the same way as you as this is what is taught in most churches. The blindness comes in not distinguishing who true Israel is and that even to this day have not known their identity. (genealogically speaking). If one wants to know, many keys are given in Hosea for the House of Israel AND the House of Judah.

    Hos 1:4 And the LORD said unto him, Call his name Jezreel; for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel.
    Hos 1:5 And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow of Israel in the valley of Jezreel.
    Hos 1:6 And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away.
    Hos 1:7 But I will have mercy upon the house of JUDAH, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will NOT SAVE THEM BY BOW, NOR BY SWORD, NOR BY BATTLE, BY HORSES, NOR BY HORSEMEN.
    Hos 1:8 Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son.
    Hos 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
    Hos 1:10 Yet the NUMBER of the children of ISRAEL shall be as the sand of the sea, which CANNOT be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye ARE THE SONS of the living God.
    Hos 1:11 THEN shall the children of JUDAH AND the children of ISRAEL be GATHERED TOGETHER, and appoint themselves ONE head (JESUS/YAHSHUA), and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

    This in gathering of ALL ISRAEL has not happened and Is not what is happening in the false formation of the Israeli state that was begotten through deceit and terrorism and “ratified” in 1948 and continues to this day by means of walling a city and battles and terrorism. Both Jews and Christians are being duped by Zionists who have used the exact same scriptures you quote above to justify themselves. Sir, we must receive the WHOLE counsel of the Almighty!

    Another problem comes when many don’t distinguish that after Israel was split into two nations, many prophesies were given separately to Israel and to Judah. They are not one and the same people to THIS DAY! Israel was to be scattered among the gentile nations and absorbed into them and virtually known as gentiles! They lost their own identity and no longer called themselves Israel after their dispersion under Assyria. Yes, blindness has come upon them, yet their birthright and land inheritance through Joseph are irrevocable! Judah, however has always maintained her identity, even to this day, yet falsely represents herself as Israel since 1948!

    Paul writes n Romans 9:6-8,

    6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from [natural] Israel; 7 neither are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but; “Through Isaac your descendants will be named.” 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are REGARDED as DESCENDANTS..

    Paul so rightfully states, as you stated above, but THIS IS CONDITIONAL AND MUST HAVE SPIRITUAL APPLICATION:

    22—Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off.
    23—AND THEY ALSO, IF THEY DO NOT CONTINUE IN THEIR UNBELIEF, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

    So, yes, ALL ISRAEL, the elect of GOD, and chosen in this age WILL BE SAVED and rule and reign with Him in the Messianic Kingdom where His righteousness and judgments shall rule. These are the overcoming ones out of the ecclesias that are given the promise in Rev. 2-3. The Lord has had His remnant in every age and it will be no different at the end of this age as Paul so rightfully states in Romans 11.

    Jesus/Yashua is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. We are presently being grafted into His tribe, His kingdom. He is the one prophesied to retain the sceptre or rule from Judah. He is Shiloh come first to Judah and again He will come with His robe dipped in blood as the rightful possessor of Israel and Joseph’s birthright.

    Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, UNTIL SHILOH come; and UNTO HIM shall the gathering of the people be.

    The earthly tribe of Judah (Jews) in this present day, who deceitfully call themselves Israel no longer hold the rule or sceptre. Those who seek after the flesh are in bondage with this earthly Jerusalem. Those who are of the spirit seek the heavenly Jerusalem as Abraham did. They like everyone else must come through the same door, Jesus Christ, who is the WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE and no man can be saved otherwise!. To support this false regime is to support antichrist!

    Yes, God has a glorious plan to save all His Children. Many will be surprised if they continue to believe this lie that is being perpetuated by the Church. They are enemies of the cross of Christ. He calls us to come out of her.
    Paul says to people like you, sir:

    Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
    Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
    Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
    Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
    Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
    Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
    Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? (HOSEA), I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
    Rom 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
    Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a REMNANT shall be SAVED:
    Rom 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
    Rom 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
    Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
    Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
    Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
    Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    May we pray for discernment in these perilous times and for truth. May we humble ourselves and seek HIS FACE. The day is far spent. The doctrines of men shall not stand, nor the arm of the flesh, but HIS WORD shall last forever. Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God. If we love Him, we will obey Him. We will desire to see if these things be true and settle it.

  15. Yahweh made promises to Israel–all 12 tribes. Then He divided them into two nations as you say–Judah and Israel. Israel was scattered as you say, and Juday has always had a presence in the Promised Land, but this is the key point that Romans 11 makes clear. All of Yahweh’s promises will be fulfilled, every single one of them, and they were made to Israel–all 12 tribes. The verses you quoted from Hosea 1: 10-11 make that clear.

    Your beliefs are amiss–way off target. You need to read the verses you quoted and realize that Yahweh will gather all 12 tribes together in the Promises Land along with everyone who calls on the Name Yahweh.

  16. Precisely my point! The promises were made to ALL 12 tribes, not just Judah. Are you able to tell where the 10 remaining tribes of Israel are residing at this present time? Are we getting the picture that this gathering can ONLY be made possible through Yahshuah at His return? It is only the Jews associated with Judah that have taken up residence in Israel now. Scripture does not tell us anywhere that Judah will be gathered together in the promised land prior to the Lord’s return. It would take a great deal of twisting to come up with that theology. By the way, Jerusalem was capital of Judea, NOT Israel and most definitely has not always maintained a presence in the Promised land since AD 70 when Jerusalem was destroyed as prophesied by Yashua. That is what this warring is all about and will end in destruction once again This present conflict will end in utter devastation. It is prophesied also in Jer.19:3-11 speaking to Judah/Jerusalem.

    Jer 19:11 and shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts: Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter’s vessel, that CANNOT BE MADE WHOLE AGAIN: and they shall bury in Topheth, till there be no place to bury.

    And yes, God is not a liar, He will fulfill every one of His promises, though it may not be in the way men THINK they should be fulfilled. His promises will be fulfilled in the coming age at Yahshua’s return. He is presently now gathering His sheep to HIMSELF and will return as the heir of David’s throne with His bride as the New Jerusalem in the new Mount Zion. His kingdom is a peculiar treasure hidden in the world and known to Him. At that day, ALL Israel will be saved and revealed.

    Hebrews 12:22-24 says,
    22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of righteous men made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a NEW covenant.

    Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is NEW Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

    Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, NEW Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    Shalom! May God be true and every man a liar….those who sow to the flesh will of the flesh reap corruption. There are many peace loving Orthodox Jews today who see quite well through this Zionist propaganda. and that their people are being led to slaughter through this deception. The PROTOCOLS OF ZION are not pretty. The Talmud is an offense to the cross! And most of Christendom are joining hands with them because they have failed to study His WORD and learn HIM. They are under a strong delusion. They believe what they are told through the traditions of men and the doctrines of demons. May the LORD have mercy and reveal this truth to those who have been given ears to hear.

  17. I’m sure that you are aware that the process of gathering starts somewhere. Yahweh is drawing His children home right now. My guess is that you have felt the call, too. Again, don’t discount the importance of Judah. Yahweh certainly didn’t, and don’t minimize the importance of Yahweh’s promises. They are very clear. Again, I think you are preaching replacement theology, and I don’t buy it. Why? Because it’s not scriptural.

  18. If you mean by replacement “theology” which teaches that the Old Covenant is about to replace the New; that the Old Jerusalem has replaced the New as the capital of the Kingdom of God; that the Levitical priesthood is about to replace Melchizedek in the Age to come; that law will replace grace; that sacrifices will be reinstituted, replacing the true Sacrifice of Christ then, no, I do not and never will ascribe to that! Why? It is not scriptural. A close study of Hebrews should put that to rest.

    May His Word accomplish His purposes in our exchange and I will leave from commenting any more herein.

    Shalom to you and to Jerusalem and to Palestine who are all precious to Yashua, the Saviour of the world.

  19. That’s not what I mean. Replacement theology has to do with the belief that people who call themselves Christians have taken the place of Abraham’s descendants through Isaac and Jacob in Yahweh’s plan and that the promises Yahweh made to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac and Jacob don’t apply any longer–not to Abraham’s natural descendants anyway. That’s the issue that Roman chapter 11 addresses.

    The Jews in Israel today are there because the land belongs to them by decree from Yahweh. More Jews, members of the 10 so-called “lost tribes”, and others who call on the Name of Yahweh will follow them to Israel in due course, but there is no problem with Jews being in Israel, the country, right now. In fact, that’s as it should be.

  20. I agree with Snyder’s assessment and Biblical views on Israel. The fact is that there is a big picture plan that people ignore because they are caught up with short term thinking about their lives. Israel’s place in Yahwehs plan will play out regardless and the question is whether we are on HIS side or not. Yahweh is the creator of us all and wants all to come to know Him, but people reject Him. There is a price to pay for that which people ignore and refuse to acknowledge. The Gospel must go out and that is all that should matter to us despite the events that unfold as Yahweh is sovereign over all of that which goes on in the world. We need to play our part and tell people the salvation that only comes through the death and resurrection of Jesus.

  21. I’ve been a longtime student of end time prophecy and have always leaned towards the Dispensational view. I say “leaned” only because I want to stay teachable by God, especially in this area because of the strong delusion spoken of in His word. Lately in my study I am seeing things in scripture that give me pause about certain teachings, and we have to test all things.  It’s somewhat along the lines of what ellemy is saying. It seems reasonable that like the temple in the OT having been a symbol of the things to come in the New Covenant, so was the land that was promised to Abraham and his seed. (gal 3:16:  The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed, not “seeds”, but to one person, who is Christ.) If that is the case then anyone now pursuing the earthly Jerusalem would be pursuing the old prototype and an earthly kingdom.  (Jesus said His kingdom was not of this world.) From what I’m reading in Revelation, the New Jerusalem is the real deal–the eternal promise of the Spirit, while this present earth along with Jerusalem will pass away. In Rev. 22 the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, will come down out of heaven from God, it is currently God’s dwelling place and will one day be among the people in the new earth. There is no temple in the New Jerusalem because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb (Jesus) are its temple. In contrast, it’s noteworthy that earthly Jerusalem is linked to the Law and to bondage in Gal 4:22-26. The law points us to Christ so that we can live by faith, anything pointing to the law and the old Jerusalem (bondage) and away from faith and the New Jerusalem (freedom) is pointing people away from Jesus.  I’m just concerned that pointing to an earthly kingdom and not to the eternal promise is pointing away from Christ…and anything not pointing to Jesus Christ is the anti-christ…a counterfeit of the real inheritance. 

  22. What you have said is accurate as far as it goes, but Yahweh’s promises are certain — all of them. Take a look at the page in SnyderTalk titled “Yahweh’s Promises Concerning the Promised Land.” The URL is http://www.snydertalk.com/?page_id=2490. Yahweh’s promises are clear, and they pertain to the Promised Land only a small part of which is represented by the modern state of Israel. Those promises include Jerusalem.

    The fact that the New Jerusalem is different from the Jerusalem of today doesn’t nullify what Yahweh has said. It simply points to the perfect fulfillment which is still yet to come.

  23. I have wondered how a promise to a piece of land could be for eternity if it will just pass away…and the only thing I can figure is it’s referring to an eternal home. Abraham never saw the promise given directly to him, he was looking beyond a temporal fulfillment to an eternal one, he lived by faith, why would his descendents want to stop short? Another thing that makes me think the land may be a thing of the past and was a shadow of His eternal promise is Joshua 21:43-45 seems to indicate the temporal promise of land was fulfilled: “So the Lord gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their ancestors, and they took possession of it and settled there…Not one of all the Lord’s good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.”
    Apparently there were physical decendants who did not live by faith (Ahab comes go mind), but some did and believed in the far off promise that their sins would be finally atoned for since the animal sacrifices were a propitiation until the Messiah came. Those who live by faith now look back to the cross on which Jesus the Messiah died for our sins. The descendants of Abraham are those who live by faith, whether Jew or Greek, slave or free, Old Testament or New. The opposite is to live by works or under the law, by which no one can be saved.
    The veil was ripped in two, the temple was destroyed, and earthly Jerusalem was left desolate after Jesus’ death and resurrection. I question why after all that and after the eternal and heavenly promise has been revealed, that God would want anyone to return and rebuild the former shadow. I just am not sure it’s of Him. I know we all hope for the eternal promise for everyone, and like Abraham that we all will someday dwell in the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. May He lead us all to Him by His wonderful son, Jesus Christ.

  24. Go to those promises in the Bible and read them carefully. Yahweh’s promises concerning the Promised Land are good into perpetuity. That means forever, and Yahweh is not prone to use words that He doesn’t intend to use. Men and women have tried to remake Yahweh in their own image since creation, and I suppose it will continue until He returns to straighten things out. That will be a very bad day for some people.

  25. I stumbled upon this website by chance as I was reading blogs on American Thinker. I find your answers to correspondents to be very insightful and biblically correct. God bless you in this website endeavor and for your support of Israel.

    I lost my job in 2008 which allowed me to fulfill a lifelong desire to make a pilgrimage to Israel. As an evangelical Christian, I consider Israel to be my future home upon the return of Yeshua ha Meschiach. I stood in the Garden of Gethsemane in January of 2009 and looked over the Kidron Valley to the Holy City. I sailed in a “Jesus Boat” on the Sea of Galilee. I stood on the shore at Tabgha where Jesus prepared fish for the breakfast of his apostles after His resurrection. I stood at The Gates of Hell ( Banias, or Caesaria Philippi ) where Jesus asked His apostles, “Who do you say I AM?” I say these things to encourage you, or any of your readers who claim Christ, to travel to Israel and learn firsthand about the places which are prominent in our faith journey. You will never regret it! It will enrich your life forever!

  26. There is but One GOD,HE and HE alone owns Israel.The land was first named Cannan given to Jacob by GOD who changed Jacobs name to Israel,the land was then given to Israels twelve sons[Jacob].Jerusalem was once called SALEM ,King David captured the city and called it Jerusalem, this to was by the Hand of GOD.The Land belong to GOD it will always be HIS dwelling Place.In the next few years all of us on earth will see The Third World War,all of the nations who hate the Jews will come to Israel to destroy the people,GOD will fight for the Jews HIS PEOPLE.In the Book of Ezekiel 38 and 39,in the Book of Joel chapter 3 we read on how GOD will destroy Islam and all the nations who hate His people.The problem in the Middle East started with Ishmale and Issac,Jacob and Esau,then Abrahams other children by his second wife Keturah who had six sons,the problem is who owns what,who has the Birth Rights to all the lands of the MiddleEast.ISRAEL belong to the JEWS not any other people,remember ,Nimrod caused the whole world in his day to turn away from GOD and his Mother Wife their son,they became the Unholy Trinity and because of them all other religions and gods and goddess came about and even our speech was changed,remember the TOWEL OF BABEL,This is where it all started.There is but one race,the human race,we have allowed SATANto take away the promises of GOD,with hate,greed,war and looking at skin color,if your blood type is O positive and mine is the same regarless of your skin color we can save each other,When JESUS come we will be ONE again.

  27. Definition of racism: the belief that all members of each
    race possess characteristics or
    abilities specific to that race, esp. so
    as to distinguish it as inferior or
    superior to another race or races.

    Yahushuah (Jesus) demolished the barier of racism on the cross (Eph2) and there is no such a thing as a Jew or Gentile any more. In Christ (Messiah) we are ALL Israelites. Concerning those who SAY they are Jews and are not but are the Synagogue of satan (Rev 2:9 & 3:9) they are the end times rich opressors of YaHUaH’s People. They are not Jews physically nor are they Jews spiritually. They are AshkeNAZI descended from Ashkenaz son of Gomer (Gog) brother of Magog and son of Japheth NOT Shem and thus not Shemetic. This is the largest number of Jewish claimants (approx. 13 mill of the world wide est. Population of Jews). Only a small number are actually Sephardi who descend from Israelites and a small number ( of the Pharisedical Rabbinical order of the satanic Talmud) are Edomites (from Esau) NOT Jacob. It is not as if ALL Ashkenazis and Edomites are evil simply because of race. They can accept accept the true Messiah just like anyone else and be engrafted into Israel. The point here is that this page is cheering on AshkeNAZIs and Edomites, now iccupying the land of Israel with brutal terroristic military force (not God’s Divine Hand) as if they are Israelites and in NO way (spiritual or physical) are they. Study their lineage in the world population poles….go ahead, I dare you..study for yourself..its not a secret. They adimately claim Ashkenaz not me or someone trying to put them down. My question is what has possessed you to cheer on the Synagogue of satan as if they are racially or spiritually superior to 350,000 Arab Christian (thus Israelite) brothers and their kinsmen? To ellemy…I comend you brother. Truly you have studied for yourself to shew yourself approved a workman of that which is good (Eph 4:28) that needeth not be ashamed, rightly discerning the word of truth. And fyi I am Israelite (Jewish) by birth and by rebirth (Rom 2:28-29) not some Arab lover Jew hater. I just know the scriptures and I know whats. Jesus said you would know them by their fruits (since many confess but DO not) and my grandparents told me that Palestine was in almost perfect peace with its diverse population of Jews, Christians and Muslim until the (blasphemously called) Israeli occupation. And look at it now…guns tanks bombs constant turmoil dragging all nations into WWIII. Check the fruits. When YaHUaH gathers Israel to its place there will be perfect peace forever, not terroristic wars on terrorism by terrorists fighting terrorists in absolute terror.lol

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